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Jesuslike101 |
02-07-2010 @ 1:09 PM
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At my church next sunday through the last sunday of this month, we are having a session on Worship.
I am right now taking a cl*ss for 8 weeks on Worship.
My youth group last month did a session the whole month on Worship.
It is so fun! ! !
But i have a few questions for you guys and girls.
What is worship like at your church?
What is your worship life like (At home, at school, at church)
What would you rate it?
Does your number go down, or up, or in the line?
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was apoun him, and BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED.
Isaiah 53:5
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Gambitt |
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02-08-2010 @ 1:31 AM
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Sounds interesting. Before i answer the questions, i must ask a few of my own.
First off, how would you define "worship"? There are so many different views per se of what worship is.
Some define it as the singing one would do at the begining of a service, while others define it more over as the way in which someone lives their life.
To the first question, in the term of songs, i would describe it as energetic at times and solemn at others. In terms of life, i am not one to judge that area of other individuals.
In my personal life, where worship can truly be considered outside of seemingly obligated things, i would say that in my heart i dedicate what i do and who i am to Christ. How would i rate it? there is no way. Like Paul said, i do not even judge myself. I do not believe there is a way to truly judge the worship of someone because how do we know what spectrum God is using. Like the Rich guy and the widow, Jesus said the widow gave more because her heart. And since none of us can understand the heart of others in that sense, there is no telling.
By your question of numbers, i am *ssuming number of people singing in worship. I truly couldn't tell. i could guess by the amount of people singing, but it goes back to the heart issue.
I am interested in the sessions you guys are having and would like to know more on the perspective of them.
"Is what you are living for, worth Christ dying for?"
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Jesuslike101 |
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02-08-2010 @ 4:12 PM
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what worship is, i think it is relizing who God is, and once we relize who he realy is, all we can do is worship.  (hehe qoute from pastor Jason
right on, right on.
By numbers i ment like on a scale of 1-10 your life of worship.
If you would like to know more you can visit our churches website at
www.TFConline.org
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was apoun him, and BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED.
Isaiah 53:5
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Gambitt |
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02-08-2010 @ 4:59 PM
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Can we truly realize who He really is?
And when we have come to minuscule understanding of who he is, we still have the option to disobey, which is not worship.
Sorry, but i am really analytical of things.
"It says we were bought with a price, but what of us did God buy? and if we are bought, do we still have ownership?"
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MarisaR |
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02-09-2010 @ 8:09 PM
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Worship at my church (in the context of singing and praising God).....
Well maybe I should say "Worship SERVICE" at my church is pretty cool. A bunch of the Youth sit in the front and jump up and down and sing as loudly as they can(oftentimes not very well, I might add)in worship service. It is kind of the atmosphere. Sometimes it gets distracting to other people, because they are fooling around some of the time, but other times its very touching to see youth of all different backgrounds-they might have ADHD, they might have speech problems, they might be bipolar, they might have autism, they might be "weird" by the world's standards- but they sing praises to God with all their might, heart, soul, and strength.If anyone is afraid to raise their hands or sing in service beforehand, the "peer pressure" if you will changes their view completely. The adults kind of have the same attitude too. It's pretty awesome. I run the projector during service, so sometimes its hard for me to truly worship God, but other times, I'll start crying back in the sound booth. It just depends, you know.
I've never been huge on worship-as far as the singing part goes. I'm not saying that's good, I like singing and everything, you know, and I love being able to be in God's presence(worship is one of the best ways to get there,it puts your mind on how awesome God truly is and the more you realize it the more you want to thank him). It just seems like, to me, A) I don't have much time(not saying this is good, just stating the facts) and B)Witnessing, prayer, and digging up God's word might be on a higher scale. ANd I can already hear the arguments Gambitt or Jesuslike101 might make-that worship is a vital part of your Christian walk, it is as necessary as prayer, reading the Word, and going to church are. AND I TOTALLY AGREE. I know my outlook on worship is not necessarily biblical or good. And I want to begin to change that believe me, and i will.
I have to agree with Gambitt about the rating part. "Our righteousness is as filthy rags". So we may think that our worship is a "10", but God sees our hearts and our motives for worship -even when we can't- and he knows that our worship is not worth anything at all. I can not and will not attempt to rate my worship, that's something I have a little bit of a problem with.Moving on...
Oh, next question, still kind of a rating thing.
I do agree with Gambitt on everything he said, about worship being the state of the heart, and all that jazz, you know. I can't disagree. It lines up with everything biblically.
Thanks for bringing this topic up, it's something that I really need to implement into my life and that I'll be working on this year.
YOU, oh Lord, keep my lamp burning; my God turns my darkness into light.
Psalm 18:28
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Gambitt |
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02-09-2010 @ 9:19 PM
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Marisa, I thank for being honest in what you have said.
I know what you mean when you say you can't get "into" the singing and such because you run the projector. I have had my fair share of running the sound board and multimedia. Please do not put a limit on what you consider worship. If what you do is for God's purpose with his will in mind it is worship. Romans 12:1-2 Read it.
When you say that your view view of something is not biblical, you should take time to figure out what would be biblical.
And let me go on a limb. I can PROMISE you something.
IF you deliberately set aside time to pray and read the word every day. GOD WILL BLESS YOU.
Please. If you show that you will set apart time from your life to give it to God, it shows that you care for what he would have you to do.
"It says we were bought with a price, but what of us did God buy? and if we are bought, do we still have ownership?"
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Jesuslike101 |
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02-10-2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Everything is a choice. It truely is. Its a choice in wether or not you worship God. Its a choice on whether you pray or not, read your bible or dont, witnes to someone or not. Its a choice to obey. Obediance is a choice.
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was apoun him, and BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED.
Isaiah 53:5
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MarisaR |
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02-10-2010 @ 11:00 PM
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oh I know what you mean. I do have a time in the morning and at night set aside to devote to God and his word- it is CRUCIAL. And I agree with everything you said. I'm a pastor's kid so I understand and agree with everything that you point out(so far ).
What I meant by my outlook on worship not necessarily being biblical was that, hmmmm, how do I put this,
that maybe I don't place as great an importance on worship as I should. "Offering my body as a living sacrafice"(Romans 12:1) is a goal that I work toward every day.I do many- I guess you would call it "servant jobs" (that doesn't seem like the right phrase but it'll work for now)- I do many things like this, but I know that my heart is not always doing it for God's glory. Therefore, I do not think I have come to this point of completely offering myself as a living sacrifice. There are so many things that I do wrong, in my mind and in my heart if not in action-and that is just as bad.
This is one area where I am really asking God and the Holy Spirit for help in at this point in time. I long with everything in me to offer my body as a living sacrifice to my Creator. But I don't think that this sacrifice I am making is...sufficient right now. Not that I am saved by anything that I do, or that God's grace is not enough, or you know what I mean.As David put it in 2 Samuel 24:24-(paraphrase) "I will not sacrifice to the Lord something that costs me nothing". Sure, the sacrifice I am making for God is maybe mediocre, but it is pretty close to costing me nothing. THAT is why I don't feel like my sacrifice is sufficient. Do you kinda get what I mean? I just feel so unworthy because I don't think I have been very fair to God for the price He paid for me, which is why I feel like I am not putting a great enough importance on worship in my life, which is something I am working on. ok, i know the way I write my posts is kind of confusing, so I apologize, I hope I got this all through nicely enough.
YOU, oh Lord, keep my lamp burning; my God turns my darkness into light.
Psalm 18:28
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Gambitt |
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02-12-2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Alrighty, when David was saying that he will not take something someone else gave him and present it as his own sacrifice without giving some payment for it making it fully his. In a sense he was saying he is not going to sacrifice some thing that he didn't truly have.
In your case, your time a life is in a sense yours. so when you sacrifice your time it is you giving up something that is yours.
But do not get hung up on that. "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
In the gospel Jesus refers to this (Mat 12:7).
David also, "You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise." Psalms 51:16-17
Or when Samuel is talking to Saul, "But Samuel replied: "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams."
But the peak of all if this is seen in Psalms 40:6-8
"Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,but my ears you have pierced; burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require. Then I said, “Here I am, I have come— it is written about me in the scroll. I desire to do your will, O my God; your law is within my heart.”
David is saying that even though God doesn't require him to do any sacrifice, that he WANTS do what God's Will because he knows that God has promised him stuff in His Word and he knows this because he has GOd's word in his heart.
You don't need to be seen giving all you material values to God for him to delight in you. He would much rather you put His word inside of you and be obedient to what he says.
"It says we were bought with a price, but what of us did God buy? and if we are bought, do we still have ownership?"
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Gambitt |
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02-12-2010 @ 12:44 PM
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O, and the way you wrote your post is similar to how i think, so it was perfectly understandable
"It says we were bought with a price, but what of us did God buy? and if we are bought, do we still have ownership?"
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